Thai girlfriend investigations in Thailand
This page is a subsection of our discreet Thai girlfriend case studies section.
We have a lot of cases which have similar elements and operations, but it is far more efficient to just discuss these elements in one web page, rather than cite multiple cases and experiences. This also allows us to cover various issues on one page. It also means we take no risk in revealing any identities and that a particular discreet case was even done!
Non-surveillance, interpersonal techniques work best and are most often employed, but these methods are something we should not discuss on the internet, and that cuts out a lot of our potential case studies to cite.
Any case studies which reveal methods could result in dangers to the agents, as the agents are potentially a threat to the substantial cash flow of scammers (as regards one guy, the one who hired us). It could also alert scammers to the methods, thereby reducing the effectiveness of the methods. Nonetheless, there are a few general things we can say:
Many cases require just one agent, and we can usually find a Thai lady who is interested in the "research" and action, or an appropriate expat. The Thai agent is "matched" to the subject being investigated, in terms of age, dress, situation, and/or apparent values and interests. (The expat who does most of the bargirl cases in bars is the husband of the owner of Thailand PI, a longtime expat in Thailand. That's me, writing most of this website.)
Notably, we generally don't recruit existing freelance prostitutes, as they are notoriously unreliable, don't have the required self-discipline, are somewhat naturally "on the side" of the other money ladies rather than the client, and are real gossip risks. Nonetheless, there are two special exceptions at the time of this writing which we use in occasional cases whereby the lady must be willing to go with a reasonably OK man.
On the opposite end -- the high classes -- some agents have experience in journalism and on-camera acting, for the nicer areas of town.
If the client wants to try to "entrap" his girlfriend, to see if she will "go with another farang", then we have a few expats who are occasionally willing to do this routine for us. "Entrapment" can be a questionable strategy. Sure, we can have a wealthy acting and handsome guy make a pass. What would you do if a nice looking and wealthy lady expressed interest in you? Alternatively, we could have a fairly ordinary guy (either money or handsome, not both) chat her up and make an indecent preposition to see just how easy or hard to get she is. If the lady accepts, then we can implement an "out" excuse for the guy to break it off later, including an urgent phone call in the lobby of the shorttime hotel, or an old girlfriend waiting at his condo.
Over the years, we've had a vast variety of cases with quite an assortment of personalities, backgrounds and current situations.
A lot of friends and associates think this work must be exciting, and if they are the nonjudgemental and understanding type who enjoy dealing with a wide variety of other kinds of people, are nicely sociable in an adaptive blend-in way, and have the self-discipline and resourcefulness required, then we give them a chance as a junior agent under a veteran as mentor.
Usually, a new agent is "moonlighting", and they are a longtime friend of an existing agent.
Often, using our contacts, we have someone in a professional position whereby they are matched with a real pretext to participate in an investigation. Of course, no internet case studies on that, as we don't want to reveal discreet cases and entities!
Some others "constantly on call" for general kinds of cases have a regular job or freelance/consulting career. Our primary community is media people (some research journalists, some in advertising/photography/modelling, and a few others). Our base operation is fulltime employees and we do other business besides just girlfriend checks!
Actually, it is quite boring at times, especially on discreet surveillance on hot days. Then, suddenly, "ma laew!" is whispered, the button is pushed to send the waiting SMS alert code, it is relayed down the chain, and the challenge is on, albeit routine. Surveillance usually requires multiple people (including private motorcycle to follow any taxi or other motorcycle) in order to be successful and discreet, and always Thai agents. It requires some training to follow someone and usually not be noticed, and be successful over the entire time.
For clients on a small budget, we can cut costs by reducing the number of surveillance agents, but only with the understanding that there are significantly larger risks regarding discretion as well as success. Maybe they're lucky, maybe they're not.
If the subject goes to an entertainment or other social place as expected, then special agents on call that day enter the scene. Sometimes we can accomodate unexpected events, especially on Friday and Saturday nights.
It takes a lot more knack, skill and experience than most people realize, in order to be successful.
Usually, we are successful. Sometimes we are not. As regards the latter, sometimes we even get an irate client of elevated emotions who then focuses on us...
On the subject side, we get many different kinds of grey-area lady situations, e.g.:
Already a longtime "mia noi" (lesser wife) of some rich guy for support, maybe wants out and a serious foreign husband
Longtime Thai boyfriend but doesn't really want to marry him (and his family), hopes for a foreign husband
Married already but separated, and hasn't told the foreign guy
Of course, we also get outright scams just to get the guy's money, girlfriends with multiple foreign boyfriends, and ladies secretly in the prostitution trade in a heavy duty manner. These are "run of the mill", and we get LOTS of these. We also find other kinds of objectionable situations which results in a negative result in the mind of the guy who hired us.
We also get many clearly positive results.
However, sometimes our fact finding missions reveal a mixed situation, more complex than the guy knew, involving imperfections which may not be show-stoppers as regards the relationship, and often the gentleman needs considerable orientation to Thai society and guidance.
If an interpretation is needed, then as a mix of Thai agents with a couple of western expats, you get a fairly balanced perspective.
Like a psychologist, we usually won't tell you something is good or bad, right or wrong for you. We will report the facts first, and as a separate matter may offer some interpretation, analysis and opinion, but it's really up to you and the lady.
We are not just expats and Thais in the tourist areas. The level of cynicism decreases dramatically with distance from the prostitution and gold-diggers areas. Our experiences in Thai society are a lot more diverse than that, and therefore we are able to see things in a broader context.
Nonetheless, we can immediately spot the distinctive behaviors and traits of those who are steeped in the prostitution and gold-digger areas -- both the ladies and the expats! Just like in journalism -- don't believe everything you read! Consider your sources.
Sample case studies of Thai girlfriends:
- Hotel employee, fake student, delayed money requests, terrible deception, Bangkok
- Bargirl, success story, mixed but faithful, Bangkok
- Bargirl, Pattaya, with monthly support but repeated urgent pressures for extra money
- Quick entrapment
- Surveillance
- Denial -- sometimes the immediate reaction
- For foreign wife, find out if husband has a Thai girlfriend -- IF
- For foreign wife or man's family, find out about husband's Thai girlfriend -- ABOUT
- Composite issues
- Safety issues
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